Wow. didn't realise there wasn't any extras. That really does suck, but to be honest I don't need any extra information about one of the most over-hyped pieces of drivel that I've ever seen.

Here's to my shelves being Avatar free

why would anyone buy the dvd in the first place???? It was a 3D movie that is really only worth seeing in 3D and on a big screen. People everywhere must have more money that sense and considered the current economic climate that is rather hilarious lol.

There's a lot Avatards out there

Really wanted to use that term since I first head it, but at the end of the day people are entitled to like what they like.
I saw the film in 2D first and then tried it in 3D, but walked out after an hour as 3D was doing my eyes in and the film was doing my head in.

I was in my local Sainsbury's and there were copies of Avatar at every check out till and on huge stands all over the shop. I haven't seen Avatar and have no interest in seeing Avatar but even if it was the greatest film of all time I would find this kind of push being successful a bit tragic. It reflects very poorly on human nature. Push a product hard enough and however useless that product may be people will just mindlessly buy it. I reckon Sainsbury's sold more Avatar DVD's than milk last week; for a bare bones 2D DVD of a movie whose major USP was it's spectacular 3D.

Hey, double dips happen all the time. Nature of the beast. I enjoyed Avatar and bought the Blu-Ray knowing full well there will be a box set at some point. Sometimes I hold off until a special edition announcement comes out, sometimes I don't. By now the double dip is so common as to not even merit discussion, IMO.

We're the only two people in the world that haven't seen Avatar then.

I much prefered the film without 3D. The colours were much more vivid - absolutely amazing in fact, and the 2.35:1 composition blows the 1.85:1 out of the water.

In terms of Special Edition vs. the one released now. A 4 Disc edition takes time to produce. Thousands of hours of footage to go through and edit. Editions that big are like putting a movie together themselves. I didn't recall many people complaining when LOTR did the exact same thing. I'm perfectly happy to wait a couple of months to get a quality release.

**I am the third. Will be watching it by the end of this week i expect.

That makes me fourth, with no real intention of ever seeing it. Haven't been interested at all.

I look at it as a socio-anthropological exercise. I didnt want to see Titanic but I felt I should watch it to get a better understanding of human nature.

Yeah after seeing it in the theatre I can't even imagine anyone wanting to see it at home.

After watching it once I dont have an interest in seeing it again--even though the effects were very impressive even in 2d. The lack of character and story doesnt make it worth a second viewing to me. I imagine in 3d its the experience--like a theme park ride, that is the main attraction.

It's funny, many of the same criticisms that are levelled at Avatar were levelled at the original Star Wars. As someone who remembers standing in line for SW back in '77 and experiencing that wave of movie fever, I'm getting major deja vu in the wake of Cameron's sf epic.

Sure Star Wars is pretty simplistic-but at the time no one had thrown what approached an A budget at a serial type adventure(the closest thing I can think of was Doc Savage Man of Bronze).
I would say the characters in Star Wars, while very simplistic, had more oomph as personalities than the ones in Avatar. The Force idea was punchier and novel than the planet is one living being concept.
Star Wars was also removed from the real world while supposedly Avatar was trying to be more grounded in reality(future Earth, resource scarcity).

Critics in the 70s were used to films like the Deer Hunter or One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Star Wars was aimed at an entirely different audience.
There is nothing comparable to such serious downbeat films in today's film world-and the critics today watch lots of sci-fi fantasy comic book movies. They are the ones commenting on Avatar's generic "Mighty Whitey" story as much as any serious critic.

Like Star Wars, Avatar threw resources into an escapist story that appealed to audiences in a major way--but I dont think people will be fondly remembering any character moments from Avatar like they have with Star Wars.

Its real achievement was advancing fx technology-especially in capturing motion from people and transfering them to animation models and in the rendering of an artificial world. The animated characters were expressive enough to be engaging as characters and yet not feeling like fx--but it got jarring when the human characters spoke. Michelle Rodriguez might as well have been an unknown-she had little to do.

I dont recall such simplicity in character and dialogue in Terminator or the Abyss--or it was just disguised better.