I've learnt today that 'The Human Centipede 2' has been rejected a BBFC certificate. Now I wasn't fussed on the first one taking in what the subject matter is, I found it to be very boring and a waste of a good concept. I sure wasn't going to bother with the sequel but now the BBFC have refused it a certificate I am finding it hard to resist the forbidden fruit! My main issue tho is i'm more concerned with the BBFC, I thought we had progressed on from this conservative nonsense but this looks like we may be taking a step back. Banning it is only going to raise more attention to it and if people want to see it they will! Thanks to the internet everything is available these days.

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/human-cen ... ed-by-bbfc

Seriously? After reading their reasoning? I think the BBFC gives a well-reasoned argument, and not a knee-jerk "ban this filth!" type response from the days of yore . . .

Yeah I explained on your thread why I will watch it, it dates back to my inner child being obsessed with the video nasties craze!

So you did. This cross-thread conversation really isn't working for me

Anyhoo, I don't really have much of a problem with this (for the moment). The BBFC clearly don't take this shit lightly. Though whether this is the start of a slippery slope remains to be seen . . .

I think Tom Six has thoroughly researched what the BBFC hate and then made a film that ticks all of those boxes. It smacks of 'look at me, I'm a naughty boy, look at me...'

His first film was a great idea for a short movie that more than borrowed from Cronenberg, but ended up pretty dull with nowhere to go.

I don't even know what to make of the concept for the second, I will probably end up watching it, but I'm more than certain it'll end up like A Serbian Film for me, ie. so ridiculous that it simply renders itself absurd.

As for the BBFC - they're doing their job, simple as. Sure, censorship is a contentious issue, but we have the BBFC and they have a job to do, I mean they've come a long way from those silly days in the late 70s early 80s thankfully.

Reckon it was a mistake to not bring back that poor man's Udo Kier fella, he was the only half-decent thing about the original. Plus now I know what a human centipede looks like, really can't see me being arsed to seek out the sequal . . .

Arsed or mouthed

There's a clever pun for the tagline somewhere in that . . .

Sorry to say and pardon my French but the BBFC can go fuck themselves, this is just another example of how shit the system is; censorship is wrong, end of. Maybe now after a couple of years i see myself as a filmmaker i take this view, but your film is your work, your art and for somebody else come along a cut or even ban your work is insulting.

At the end of the day the BBFC will achieve nothing because as already mentioned the internet is a wonderful thing and i'm sure that more people will now go out and seek the film because of it's notoriety. We the people don't need to be saved from graphic footage, warning yes by all means but to out right tell you what we are fit to see or not is a crock of shit.

Just out of curiosity, I can't imagine that the BBFC ban actually keeps anyone from seeing the movie at home so long as they're online, so is the beef with you guys just that you can't see it on the big screen?

No I wouldn't say the beef is we can't see it on the big screen (I wouldn't have watched this at the cinema) my personal beef with it is the BBFC telling us what we can and can't watch and thinking every member of the public will watch this and become corrupt from it. I feel like the board at the BBFC are saying to me "I'm intelligent and I can watch this film and not be affected by it but YOU on the other hand who isn't so clever won't be able to handle it. I know what's good for you, you don't"

That's an interesting opinion, because I've lived in Japan for nearly 20 years, and there's a similar problem here that the Japanese are dealing with: child pornography is illegal in Japan, because it's abusive to children. However, child porn anime isn't illegal here, because no children are involved in it's production. You can also hire very young-looking actors to be in your porn movie and do your best to make them look like prepubescent children, and so long as they're over 18, it is perfectly legal.

Although this law is not likely to be changed anytime soon, it does upset me that it exists in my host country and I would feel very comfortable if pertinent laws were enacted to ban this material outright, even if it resulted in some thoughtful/well-made films being lost because of it. I do believe that such material could potentially nurture the sick urges of budding pedophiles, and as such, do believe that censorship in the interests of public decency is justified in at least some cases.

CENTIPEDE2, although I'm sure is disgusting and artless, isn't as morally reprehensible as kiddie porn, so it's hard to get quite as worked up over, but I do at least agree with the BBFC that there are some lines that shouldn't be crossed.

I totally agree with you about wanting child porn anime banned! Who WOULD want to watch that apart from budding pedophiles! It's dodgy ground we are on now tho as I was pissed off when the BBFC hacked apart 'A Serbian Film'. The infamous baby rape scene in that film is so ridiculous and fake looking that it's hard to take serious, I understand tho that this is against BBFC guidelines and the protection of children BUT it's clearly a doll and not a real child so why cut it?

As for the Human Centipede 2 it has now gained a popularity it probably does not deserve. It's probably just as stupid and boring as the first one and viewing it is unlikely to threaten the collapse of our society. It may be poor taste and artless but this isn't a reason for banning it.

Now that the film has finally passed the rating system after being heavily cut, is anyone actually going to watch the film?. Personally i'm only interested in watching it uncut to be honest, much like A Serbian Film i want to see it all or not at all. though as far as i'm aware there isn't an uncut copy to be found.

Just to keep the board alive, I actually watched this tonight! It wasn't the full uncut version but all i'm saying is jeeeeeez what a piece of shit this was